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so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin, thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make certain that there are no problems in terms of their background, to pay a fine, to pay their taxes, and then they would be here in a probationary status where they could not be deported. they could work. and we watched them as a number of other things evolve and progress under the bill. border security leading to green cards, leading to citizenship. >> woodruff: we hear some advocacy organizations saying, wait a minute. even that level of requirement is going to be a disincentive. they're not going to want to sign up if
so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin, thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a...
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is this a win for president obama? does this become next to probably health care reform one of his lasting legacies? >> yes however i think it is a net neutral for both parties at the end of the day. the white house will claim it as they should because they are driving the conversation. republicans are also going to claim credit as they should because they are going to say we got this through the house and senate. >> i guess we could aargue that if republicans and democrats aren't talking about impgration reform in a year that is a win for the gop, as well. >> i love talking about politics as much as the next guy. on this issue this is a win for the country. you cannot have 13 million people in the shadows and think that is good for the future of the country. too many young people worried about the future. that is not the way a country needs to be run. in terms of the political consequences or the benefits, both sides i think can make the argument that they benefit. at the end of the day the country will benefit from t
is this a win for president obama? does this become next to probably health care reform one of his lasting legacies? >> yes however i think it is a net neutral for both parties at the end of the day. the white house will claim it as they should because they are driving the conversation. republicans are also going to claim credit as they should because they are going to say we got this through the house and senate. >> i guess we could aargue that if republicans and democrats aren't...
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. >> bob: i congratulate the obama administration. >> kimberly: down to five seconds. thank you for watching. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> bret: a bipartisan plan for immigration reform. is this the one thing washington can come together on? politics and the policy. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. almost everyone in washington agrees the immigration system is broken. and needs fixing. but forget the small print. no one could even agree on the major points. now, that may be changing. chief political correspondent carl cameron tells us about a proposal that might actually have a chance. >> day before the president unveils the immigration reform plan in las vegas, bipartisan group of senators laid down the framework on the controversial issue. >> we do not want immigration as a wedge issue. much rather we want a bipartisan bill that solves the problems and becomes law. >> four democrats joined four republicans including arizona senator john mccain, top g.o.p. advocate for immigration reform for years. influential freshman senator flori
. >> bob: i congratulate the obama administration. >> kimberly: down to five seconds. thank you for watching. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> bret: a bipartisan plan for immigration reform. is this the one thing washington can come together on? politics and the policy. this is "special report." ♪ ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. almost everyone in washington agrees the immigration system is broken. and needs fixing. but forget the small print. no one could...
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so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance to go through a criminal background check to make certain that there are no problems in terms of their background, to pay a fine to pay their taxes, and then they would be here in a probationary status where they could not be deported. they could work. and we watched them as a number of other things evolve and progress under the bill. border security leading to green cards, leading to citizenship. >> woodruff: we hear some advocacy organizations saying, wait a minute. even that level of requirement is going to be a disincentive. they're not going to want to sign up if t
so how will the politics of this new effort shake out on capitol hill? we asked two senators from the gang of eight. first my conversation with democratic senator dick durbin of illinois. i talked to the majority whip just a short time ago. senator durbin thank you very much for joining us. i think one of the main questions i'm hearing is, what does this proposal mean for people living in this country illegally right now? what would happen to them? >> basically it would give them a chance...
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that did little to win palestinians over to obama's side washington was against the upgraded status of palestine at the united nations angering but not surprising palestinians i would say that the people in general. stop thinking of him as a somebody who will do. us any favor or any good we realize that all our expectations which were very high turned out to be zero as a matter of fact islamophobia inside the united states is on the increase helped in no small part of by the growing negative portrayal of the muslim world in the media and hollywood recent polls show overall confidence in obama has dropped especially in muslim countries we were declined by nine percent in three years global approval of his international policies is also decreased from a positive rating of thirty four percent in the muslim world in two thousand and nine to just fifteen percent in two thousand and twelve obama came just to beautified the ugly face that bush left it's american interests that lead american presidents the only difference is that while one president smiles the other doesn't and the american
that did little to win palestinians over to obama's side washington was against the upgraded status of palestine at the united nations angering but not surprising palestinians i would say that the people in general. stop thinking of him as a somebody who will do. us any favor or any good we realize that all our expectations which were very high turned out to be zero as a matter of fact islamophobia inside the united states is on the increase helped in no small part of by the growing negative...
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variety of reasons. >> reporter: the president will talk about it in vegas. >> is he looking to play politics or solve the problem. >> reporter: the president speaks tuesday. lawmakers lay out their reform plan today. what we'll see today is just an outline. remember, they have to work out details. snoom of them. >>> president obama and secretary of state clinton were interviewed for the first time together on "60 minutes." they talked about their battles during the 2008 campaign and their relationship during the last four years. >> we had such agreement on what needed to be done for our country. >> made for tough debates. >> it did. >> we could never figure out what we were different on. hillary mentioned, you know, part of our bond is we've been through a lot of the same stuff. and part of being through the same stuff is getting whacked around in political campaigns. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. >> being criticized in the press. you know, we've both built some pretty thick skins. by the time hillary joined the administration, i felt very confident and comfortable in all working relationship. i think
variety of reasons. >> reporter: the president will talk about it in vegas. >> is he looking to play politics or solve the problem. >> reporter: the president speaks tuesday. lawmakers lay out their reform plan today. what we'll see today is just an outline. remember, they have to work out details. snoom of them. >>> president obama and secretary of state clinton were interviewed for the first time together on "60 minutes." they talked about their battles...
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. >> no political tea leaves? >> we haven't got some tea. >> if he had a clinton presidency, i think we would have fixed this fiscal mess. >> it seems to be the pr organization for the obama administration. >> male models moonlighting as handymen. >> mike wallace is spinning in his grave. >> let's get to our panel now, angela rye is a political strategist. dr. james peterson is a contributor to thegrio.com and ryan grim, d.c. bureau chief for "the huffington post." welcome to all of you. i'm glad you're watching again ryan behind you on the screen. professor peteon, we saw a lot of the president this weekend, a lengthy interview given to the new republic and that interview with hillary clinton on "60 minutes." i see republicans grumbling about that interview. is that because it made democrats seem like mature, well-mannered, adults who are trying to get something done? >> yeah. for all of their critique about what they perceived as being a softball interview, have you ever seen a republican politician on a fox new
. >> no political tea leaves? >> we haven't got some tea. >> if he had a clinton presidency, i think we would have fixed this fiscal mess. >> it seems to be the pr organization for the obama administration. >> male models moonlighting as handymen. >> mike wallace is spinning in his grave. >> let's get to our panel now, angela rye is a political strategist. dr. james peterson is a contributor to thegrio.com and ryan grim, d.c. bureau chief for "the...
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president obama called mohammad more see hours after he was elected. the head of the egyptian army today warned political unrest is pushing egypt to the brink of collapse. dili protests are continuing. sixty people had been killed. since friday, fox is the least and terrorist analyst. a little bit of a cold. not helping meet with the audience out tonight. >> they're very serious claims for the following reasons. huge middle-class to muscle society people have been rising since early december. have been dozens of people here, hundreds wounded on the streets. the revolution, the new revolt is not receding. tried to impose zones where populations cannot walk an act. the army was not able to implement that, so is very serious breakdown. lou: what is your personal view? does he survive this? what other prospects for egypt? >> he is going to use everything that he can. he has a majority in parliament. he has the office of the presidency. he has the control of the ministry of interior security forces and above all he has this very wide militia known as the se
president obama called mohammad more see hours after he was elected. the head of the egyptian army today warned political unrest is pushing egypt to the brink of collapse. dili protests are continuing. sixty people had been killed. since friday, fox is the least and terrorist analyst. a little bit of a cold. not helping meet with the audience out tonight. >> they're very serious claims for the following reasons. huge middle-class to muscle society people have been rising since early...
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in it, president obama is not happy with political opponent questioning his policies particularly when it comes to the gun control. and chris stirewalt, host of power play on foxnews.com. i want to tell the viewers we got breaking news, comments from one of the newtown families, one of the children's parents. they're very compelling and this father has a different view on gun control than president obama does. and he's the first to stand up on this issue in this way so we're going to play that momentarily, but i want to talk to you first about what's happening at the white house. the president saying i'm going directly to law enforcement and try to get their support for this. and sort of trying to go directly to the american people, which has been his approach. in the meantime though, his comments in the new republic are getting a lot of attention, chris. he was asked about how he's going to work with republicans, going forward, whether it's on gun control or immigration or what have you. and this is what he told the new republic. the interview was conducted by somebody who worked on h
in it, president obama is not happy with political opponent questioning his policies particularly when it comes to the gun control. and chris stirewalt, host of power play on foxnews.com. i want to tell the viewers we got breaking news, comments from one of the newtown families, one of the children's parents. they're very compelling and this father has a different view on gun control than president obama does. and he's the first to stand up on this issue in this way so we're going to play that...
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remember a few years ago president obama was boxed in by immigration. he had put the enforcement into effect, but he hadn't sort of made the system more gentle, more welcoming. politically he was in a bad spot with latino voters. a ton of pressure. now the funny thing about the situation is that politically, just politically, this is a win for him either way. >> even the dream act was there. there was a question as to what was going to happen with that. now through executive order he is somer assaulting. >> you have bobby jindahl saying we can't be the stupid party anymore. who wins out? >> they're all wrong. they're talking about the problem with the party -- the problem with the party is policy. seven days after the election, the ohio legislature, i assume with the blessing of governor kasich passes -- defeated in mississippi. i mean, what were they thinking? what are they thinking? i think they've got to look at themselves and say we've got to control the tea party aspect of this party. we've got to get back to taking positions that ordinary american
remember a few years ago president obama was boxed in by immigration. he had put the enforcement into effect, but he hadn't sort of made the system more gentle, more welcoming. politically he was in a bad spot with latino voters. a ton of pressure. now the funny thing about the situation is that politically, just politically, this is a win for him either way. >> even the dream act was there. there was a question as to what was going to happen with that. now through executive order he is...
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. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry gibberish ] i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male announcer ] with stamps.com you can print real u.s. postage for all your letters and packages. i have exactly the amount of postage i need, the instant i need it. can you print only stamps? no... first class. priority mail. certified. international. and the mail man picks it up. i don't leave the shop anymore. [ male announcer ] get a 4 week trial plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. sdwleerchlgts as violence con
. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry...
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. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry gibberish ] sdwleerchlgts as violence continues for the fifth straight day across the country. an opposition leaders have rejected president morsi's sunday night call for dialogue. so far the political crisis has left 50 dead and many more injured. nbc's amman mojadin joins from yous cairo. is there any resolution in sight, or is this thing still escalating? >> reporter: well, right now the situation remains extremely tense. in fact, a short while ago you can probably see it in those pictures tahrir square. they set this on fire as thousands cheered on. in the cities of -- in fact, in
. >> how could the political unrest in egypt impact president obama's second term? you're watching andrea mitchell reports only on msnbc. [ coughs ] [ angry gibberish ] i took something for my sinuses, but i still have this cough. [ male announcer ] a lot of sinus products don't treat cough. they don't? [ male announcer ] nope, but alka seltzer plus severe sinus does it treats your worst sinus symptoms, plus that annoying cough. [ breathes deeply ] ♪ oh, what a relief it is! [ angry...
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first, just psychologically and politically. it's the first setback obama has had. he has been riding high on everything. victory after victory. this is an important setback. it's likely to temper their pension for ruling through executive orders. and by administrative actions. to go around congress. this is a rebuke. saying that we were saying at the time. these are lawless appointments. the senate was not in recess. >> bret: explain this. thenate was in a pro forma session. the republicans kept it in pro forma session. they were doing some things. they were moving some things along. some things were moving through. it wasn't a full session. democrats were refuting that. the president said they were re -- the president said they were recess appointments and the republicans said we weren't in recess. >> recess appointments look like a power grab and they are. they use them to slip through controversial nominee the other party opposes. george w. bush did it 171 times. clinton, 139. reagan 243 times. this a practice that they use. they figured out how to make fake ses
first, just psychologically and politically. it's the first setback obama has had. he has been riding high on everything. victory after victory. this is an important setback. it's likely to temper their pension for ruling through executive orders. and by administrative actions. to go around congress. this is a rebuke. saying that we were saying at the time. these are lawless appointments. the senate was not in recess. >> bret: explain this. thenate was in a pro forma session. the...
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neutral state apparatus in egypt other than a state a party to serving one political party. or you are still in that period. a great collaboration over the last four years that's how u.s. president barack obama described his first term in office with hillary clinton who's now leaving the post of secretary of state both appeared in a joint televised interview as america's top diplomat prepares to step down let's take a closer look at how the duo defended their foreign policy in the middle east well responding to calls for decisive action in the region obama cited egypt as one of the examples where his administration played a leading role in aiding regime change let's take a closer look at what he actually said i think that it had it not been for the leadership we showed you might have seen a different outcome there we do nobody a service when we leap before we look make sense right but if we actually take a look at what's happening in egypt we've been reporting in fact just this hour unrest and mass protests are leading the egyptian president morsi to declare a state of emerg
neutral state apparatus in egypt other than a state a party to serving one political party. or you are still in that period. a great collaboration over the last four years that's how u.s. president barack obama described his first term in office with hillary clinton who's now leaving the post of secretary of state both appeared in a joint televised interview as america's top diplomat prepares to step down let's take a closer look at how the duo defended their foreign policy in the middle east...
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issue and that's why i didn't have a lot of hope that the arab antipathy has not been softened by obama's support for the arab spring or his military withdrawal from iraq few american presidents have lost their good standing with the arab world as quickly and as significantly as a bomber for him now to renew trust in america he'll have to do more than just promise a new beginning in a cairo speech policy r.t. tel aviv. i thought my cia agent who oversaw the comptroller the man sought to be al qaeda said in command has been sentenced to a half years in prison for leaking classified intelligence john kiriakou was the first to blow the whistle on washington's torture program later revealing the name of alleged torture at guantanamo bay the cia denies the accusations referring instead to enhanced interrogation techniques. today's house. the cia veteran the former chief of counterterrorism operations in pakistan john kiriakou will spend thirty months in prison for leaking the identity of an agent but before he was prosecuted mr kitty acqua had been actively speaking out against torture and now
issue and that's why i didn't have a lot of hope that the arab antipathy has not been softened by obama's support for the arab spring or his military withdrawal from iraq few american presidents have lost their good standing with the arab world as quickly and as significantly as a bomber for him now to renew trust in america he'll have to do more than just promise a new beginning in a cairo speech policy r.t. tel aviv. i thought my cia agent who oversaw the comptroller the man sought to be al...
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on foreign policy, president obama defending himself from critics who say the u.s. has not been aggressive enough in using american power abroad. >>> well, moammar gadhafi probably does not agree with that assessment, or at least if he were around he would not agree with that assessment. when it comes to egypt, if it had not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. but also understanding that we do nobody a service when we leap before we look. here is a classic example of where our involvement, we want to make sure that not only does it enhance u.s. security but also that it is doing right by the people of syria and neighbors like israel that are going to be profoundly affected by it. and so it's true sometimes that we don't just shoot from the hip. >>> secretary clinton's last day at the state department will be this friday. >>> we have new developments on immigration reform. a bipartisan group of eight senators say they've reached an agreement on sweeping legislation that includes border security and a path to citizenship f
on foreign policy, president obama defending himself from critics who say the u.s. has not been aggressive enough in using american power abroad. >>> well, moammar gadhafi probably does not agree with that assessment, or at least if he were around he would not agree with that assessment. when it comes to egypt, if it had not been for the leadership we showed, you might have seen a different outcome there. but also understanding that we do nobody a service when we leap before we look....
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msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this attitude -- >> drug and human smuggling, home invasions, murder. >> we're outmanned. with all the illegals in america, more than half come through arizona. >> complete the dang fence. >> to this attitude. >> we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> but even if john mccain has changed his tune, getting the house gop to harmonize may not be so easy. michael steel spokesman for john boehner, was decidedly noncommitmental on the i
msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications drishgt karen finney is here, and mother jones washington bureau chief david corn. channelling the spirit of rick perry, will the republican party finally have a heart when it comes to immigration? president obama is en route to las vegas where he will outline his immigration priorities just hours from now which comes amid signs of bipart sfwlan agreement on the issue in the senate. for senate leaders it has been a swift path from this...
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last november, president obama won more than 70% of the latino vote, a new political reality forcing some republicans to reconsider their past opposition. >> first of all, americans support it in poll after poll. secondly, latino voters expect t third, the democrats want it and fourth, republicans need it. >> reporter: senator marco rubio in a nevada newspaper today insisted illegal immigrants must earn their new citizenship. we can't round up millions of people and deport them but we also can't fix our broken immigration system if we provide incentives for people to come here illegally. also front and center, the battle over guns. president obama telling the new "republic" magazine that advocates of gun control have to do a little more listening than they do sometimes. asked if he has ever fired a gun, mr. obama said, up at camp david we do skeet shooting all the time, like jfk used to years ago. on "meet the press," former vice presidential candidate paul ryan referred to last month's newtown tragedy as a watershed moment. >> it's our worst nightmare, something like this happening.
last november, president obama won more than 70% of the latino vote, a new political reality forcing some republicans to reconsider their past opposition. >> first of all, americans support it in poll after poll. secondly, latino voters expect t third, the democrats want it and fourth, republicans need it. >> reporter: senator marco rubio in a nevada newspaper today insisted illegal immigrants must earn their new citizenship. we can't round up millions of people and deport them but...
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act some of his threats and go after iran and strike iran specially during a period in which obama i do not thinking is in any political mood to go for another war against iran i think it's becoming for and tougher for him to do so. far my colleague bill daughters here in half an hour's time but for now after a short break i gadgets and gizmos the latest installment of our series technology they thank you for what you. well. out of sight but still on our minds radiation from the still exceeds the norm let's try to live smarter with smart phones you never know what some people are hiding thanks can't be sure to prove down to the molecular level learned that what the doctor ordered is often based on secrets under our skin let us shine the light on a kid in a world. we've got the future covered.
act some of his threats and go after iran and strike iran specially during a period in which obama i do not thinking is in any political mood to go for another war against iran i think it's becoming for and tougher for him to do so. far my colleague bill daughters here in half an hour's time but for now after a short break i gadgets and gizmos the latest installment of our series technology they thank you for what you. well. out of sight but still on our minds radiation from the still exceeds...
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act some of his threats and go after iran and strike iran especially during a period in which obama i do not thinking is in any political mood to go for another war against iran i think it's becoming friend tougher for him to do so. the prospects for palestinian statehood will be another important issue for the israeli prime minister the peace deal is now deadlocked with netanyahu saying more settler homes will be built in his third term when actor and director nimrod common known for his prank videos decided to take an orthodox look at the israeli land expansion my name is mirrored an israeli citizen living here among arabs in white chapel long gone you one housing crisis out of all time high the thing is there is another one in jerusalem where i can also leave among ourselves and i think i can get there much better do the wise over the. fire in my lair to me i would like to see the flood to buy i'm here with some investors from england. we want to. in this area because i'm hearing the property value might go up he's been told that one flat is one million shekels his father's flat in
act some of his threats and go after iran and strike iran especially during a period in which obama i do not thinking is in any political mood to go for another war against iran i think it's becoming friend tougher for him to do so. the prospects for palestinian statehood will be another important issue for the israeli prime minister the peace deal is now deadlocked with netanyahu saying more settler homes will be built in his third term when actor and director nimrod common known for his prank...
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. >> in politics and in democracy, sometimes you win elections. sometimes you lose elections. and i worked very hard but i lost and then president obama asked me to be secretary of state and i said yes. and why did he ask me and why did i say yes? because we both love our country. >> one of the biggest challenges on secretary clinton's watch has been the bloody conflict in syria. that civil war has also produced a growing refugee crisis as syrians try to escape. just yesterday the u.n. said that a record number of syrians, 30,000, had arrived in a refugee camp in neighboring jordan since the beginning of this year alone. that camp is where we sent nbc's stephanie gosk to take a first-hand look. >> reporter: it's just before sunset and the syria/jordan border is deceptively quiet. as night falls, syrian refugees are on the move. day time crossings are dangerous. the jordanian military says this video it shot recently shows syrian forces firing at a family with small children as they run to the border. so the refugees cross in the dark. several thousand a day now. flooding into
. >> in politics and in democracy, sometimes you win elections. sometimes you lose elections. and i worked very hard but i lost and then president obama asked me to be secretary of state and i said yes. and why did he ask me and why did i say yes? because we both love our country. >> one of the biggest challenges on secretary clinton's watch has been the bloody conflict in syria. that civil war has also produced a growing refugee crisis as syrians try to escape. just yesterday the...
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he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you have to be for it across the board, and that's why it's in the bill. i think it's just -- i know it's cynical to say about washington, but it's just the right policy and the right thing to do, and i think that's why the president comes to it that way. it will be interesting to see what pieces of this get coupled together, though. the security piece, border security and enforcement, the president has already done a lot. >> yes. to the ayre of many in the latin community. >> if there were a democratic primary this time around, i think people would have talked a lot about deportations and how much enforcement there was. there's
he says if obama pushes a fast pass to legalization above other reform priorities, he could fracture the coalition which may be the point. the idea that the president wants us to fall apart for republicans for his own political -- >> i think -- >> for his next election campaign? >> exactly. >> for hillary in 2016. >> that's exactly right. on the equality piece, i think the president has made clear that he is for equality for all citizens. when you are for, it you...